. >> greta: look at google, perfectly lawferl. they did tax avoidance and managed to do that in bermuda. they saved $2 billion. but this whole idea of tax -- you hear so much from the members of congress and the president, you know, going on for decades that woo need tax reform. then we hear stories like tonight, where 17 senator who is voted for obamacare are now asking for specific tax relief in obamacare for a special interest, which happens to be medical devices. so i mean, the game goes on and on and on, this tax game. we never have a sense of, you know, trying to reform it and making it a good solution for our country. >> sure. yet the impact keeps happening. new jersey increased its rate and lost 25,000 residents by 2011 and $150 million in tax revenue. it gained some on the other side. maryland raised their top rate almost 10% n2008, they had 3,000 people who filed over $1 million and a year later, only 2 ,000, down 50%. the problem here is, if you just keep trying to soak the rich fwe tax american millionaires at 100%, ha